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>>look at this, you got this? >>there it is man. look at that >>life without dance is boring [laughter] >>when you first heard that they were doing charlie rose and gayle king, didn't you go "what?" >>do you enjoy talking

politics? >>no >>people call me, cause they feel nobody's paying attention >>our culture, i don't think has ever been tested in the way it's being tested right now >>that's a good question! high five!

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cohost of fox 5's good day new york can be seen what time? >>7-10, every day >>with your colleague? >>rosanna scotto it's a lot of television we love it, but it's a lot >>you guys are great partners?

what's the chemistry? >>chemistry is, you know, i have two best friends in the world. one friend, i need to have another person in the room, we kind of work through the, we kind of almost performing for the other person, another person i know

if someone else is there it disrupts the flow rosanna and i are good friends we need another person there and that other person is the viewer >>yeah >>that makes sense >>you guys connected pretty

much from the beginning? >>yeah, i mean, it just kinda worked >>and it doesn't happen i don't ev... not only it doesn't happen all the time it doesn't even happen that often in television >>you know, there are a

couple of teams that have been around for a while, i hear that have had some staying power, but we're at this 8 going on 9 years >>hmm. your career has been fascinating. and because we worked together before you know, i've gotten to know

you over the years, but explain to folks your background growing up you grew up where? >>suburbs of new york city long island, garden city and i went to college here in the city, and then after college, it was into the

marine corps, as an officer >>why? >>well, i had seen my father i had kind of heard of his experiences, he was a marine corps officer out of college and went to vietnam and not that i wanted to go to war, but i kinda wanted that

adventure. i wanted to experience what he experienced >>so by the way, ray kelly your dad, is actually doing one on one with us today he may even be in this building as we speak watching this interview >>alright, well he'll have a

tough act to follow >>exactly >>[laughter] >>it was not expected of you to go into the marines? right? >>no. he didn't, you know he wasn't the great santini "you will do this" or anything

like that, it really was leadership by example. i wanted to do it, i wanted to have the experience he had, i saw what it gave him >>or i saw what it made him and i wanted to do it too >>the transition into broadcasting and news?

>>yeah, that was fun it was challenging i had spent, actually, nine years as a pilot, i had a five year commitment after flight school, flight school took about four years so, nine years in, i was looking for something

what's next? i gave some consideration to staying in maybe joining the fbi, maybe going to law school, airline pilot, those were the typical things marine corps officers did, but i always liked current events, and my brother suggested

journalism, and when he did it was like i could see myself doing that >>but describe it, i mean your work wasn't on the streets here in new york city? >>no, i was deploying on aircraft carriers, i was

deployed all over the world really and spent a lot of time in the desert southwest of the united states, but you know, we still got newspapers, had access to the internet, and i was always drawn to what was happening in places that i wasn't

and you know, following the news is kind of a form of escapism, and to do it for a living, that was really intriguing, so i sent resumes all over the country, and started with new york, los angeles, chicago, thinking of course, they would want

a fighter pilot in their newsroom, i didn't really hear much back, and then i started working on smaller markets, odessa, texas montgomery, alabama and finally, binghamton, new york hired me as their morning anchor slash evening reporter

>>and you came into fox news? >>fox news, well i was upstate for about a year, a little less and then i went to new york one i covered politics there for a year and a half, and then the war was brewing overseas, this is the fall of >>2002

>>and i started kinda marketing myself as "hey if something happens" >>"i'm the kind of guy you might like as a news organization to have on your staff" >>and since you've been at fox five for how long?

>>since 2008, eight years >>biggest changes in the industry and the business greg? >>whew! that is a tough one well, you know what? actually the technology of actually presenting news is pretty much the same. although we don't rely on it that much, i am not

a social media guy, i consume it, but i don't live on it i actually am not crazy about what it's done to us i think we're all distracted or we're all looking down we're not looking at each other we've become kind of numb to a lot of things, so i'm not

excited about some of the changes >>but more and more people are consuming information this way >>sure, and you've got to make sure that you, what you're presenting, what you're putting out there is interesting is compelling, the idea that

someone's just going to watch an eight minute segment because you know you have a nice tie on, and you've got makeup on, and it's a relatively interesting person that you might be sitting with, you can't rely on that you've got to mix it up

you've got to bring all you can because there are so many other things to look at >>and when you and rosanna are doing that show for all those hours everyday, how much of it is a challenge for you when you're just not feeling that energy and you've gotta bring

it? >>you know, i, we almost always feel the energy you don't feel the energy before the show, or maybe after the show >>you crash. but no it's not an option during the show one little trick we have that

i'll share with you, the teleprompter. we barely ever use it. i find it's almost impossible to think about anything but yourself when you're reading off of that thing, and donald trump like him or not, that's one thing, one of the reasons

why he connects with the people he connects with and why he's so compelling on that campaign trail he doesn't use that thing >>this campaign, by the way we're doing this, we're taping this program in may 2016 so it will be seen for a while

after that, without getting into politics, covering politics, what's it like for you? >>what's it like? well >>you love it? >>no. i don't like politics particularly. i was a white house correspondent for

two years, i lived in the beltway, i was something of a political junkie, but i kinda lost my taste for it, and i think it's helped me as a talk show host. because most people don't find politics, the everyday "who raised how much money

last quarter?" that kind of stuff, that interesting people where i used to live in washington dc, that community they eat that stuff up but i don't, and most of my viewer don't either >>what part do you find interesting? the most

compelling aspects of your work you really really get into? >>you know, it, when it rises to the level that you know, hey people are talking about it, it's a natural kind of, it hits a level where you understand

that people are going to talk about it, you know, we come in in the morning, "did you see what he did this time?" you know what i mean? just when regular people of which i consider myself a regular person, when we're talking about it, we're thinking about

it, that's when you want to put it on tv >>we got this clip can we show a clip of the show, real quick? >>okay, whatever you got >>i think this is a spoof of trump. that's all i'm gonna say

>>[laughter] okay! >>you're doing it, let's go to it >>two years ago, you did a very smart thing, you elected me president, and i'm here to say you're welcome >>[applause] >>you know, every day, people

come up to me, this is about amazing things. tonight i will tell you about the most amazing thing i've ever done, people ask me all the time, "hey what's the most amazing thing you've ever done?" i say, "i can figure that out" i went to an ivy league school, i know

from amazing, stand by, we're gonna get to it in a second don't rush me. now, who remembers that woman i beat? that poor woman? hillary clinton? oh my god! i want to get the kids involved here you like those viral videos right? viral videos? who

doesn't want to go viral? >>after i beat her, she went totally insane, koo koo bananas nutjob crazy >>i got this email to me and i have it on my ipad gizmo >>only four months! [laughter] >>woah hold on, i want to be clear, this is trump after he's

>>elected president? >>well that was our halloween episode, and yes, that's october 31st, 2017, and donald trump is president again, that's our halloween >>it's not a nightmare? >>episode >>correct? i just want to

clarify, this is... >>it depends, maybe it's your dream come true >>or at the end... >>a beautiful dream, or it could be a nightmare >>that's having fun with it? >>that's having some fun with it, and by the way, hillary

four votes, excuse me, it was four electoral votes. creamed her in the popular vote >>just so you know that's... but that was the... >>tell everyone again when people can watch you and your talented cohost rosanna? >>well that kind of hilarity

hopefully starts at about 9 o'clock, but the show itself, 7-9, is from the outside, you know, first glance it's a standard news show with healthy commentary and interesting things hopefully from your host, rosanna and me, but and that stuff

at 9 o'clock, is more >>it changes up? >>yeah, it's kind of like wendy williams slash hoda and >>the other one, kathie lee >>kathie lee, yes >>and a bunch... [laughter] >>the other one were you...? will you stop!

>>she's the best >>what time you get up? >>4:05 >>ready to do it? you work out, you do your thing? >>i don't work out no no, i try, i mean i... >>will you stop?

>>i dab... no i dabble in the afternoon, but no, 4:05 it's, no i can't do that >>check out our friend greg kelly, cohost of fox five's good day new york he's had an amazing career and he's still got a lot of

work to do. listen, appreciate you coming in >>steve, anytime, thank you all the best >>tell our friends over there we say hello >>okay >>stay with us, we'll be right back, after this

good stuff >>to watch more find us online and follow us on social media >>hi, steve adubato... you can hear the chaos behind me we're at the north ward center in newark, new jersey just finished the doctor martin

luther king legacy award which, one of the awards was given to your former staffer, modia butler, who is leaving to go to the private sector, right? >>yes, my cheif of staff i mean, people look at the mayors and the principals

but usually their number ones the chiefs of staff, have the toughest job out there everyday so he's a guy that has just served this city incredibly and then served the state cause he was my state director so he's had a great career in public service, now he's going

off to make some money to send his daughter to college >>you know what's so interesting? as we talk about doctor king, his legacy so many years after 1968 when he was assassinated what do you say, senator, about the state of race relations

in our nation right now and particularly as it relates to a lot of the anti muslim rhetoric? and frankly, emotion out there? >>well, you know, we've made extraordinary strides, we have so much to be proud of in terms of the gains and achievements

of not only individual african-americans, but african-americans as a whole but we still live in a society that has a lot more work to do and a lot of deep divisions that we need to heal and bridge, and african-americans if you look at outcomes in the

criminal justice system afri... blacks are not more likely to use drugs, or deal drugs, actually, there's the indices are the same for blacks and whites, but they're about four times more likely to be arrested for it, so you see these racial disparities

in a lot of sectors in our society, that show we have more work to do as a community in coming together, and this isn't about advancing an african-american cause, it's about advancing the ideals of america. now that said, you know, i really reject

discrimination, or hate, or bias, or implicit bias, of any type, and we've gotta understand that this is a nation that has benefited from all different folks all different faiths, and we cheer muslim athletes, from muhammad ali, to kareem

abdul-jabbar, we benefit from muslim scientists and researchers, and businesspeople in terms of the economy we enjoy. we need everybody and we can't be a country that in any way starts to discriminate against people because of color of skin, race

or because of religion >>but senator, what do you make of a lot of the anti muslim emotion out there, particularly as it relates to the issue of immigration, the fear post san bernardino, post paris what do you make of it? >>look, fear is toxic and

destructive, and you cannot allow incidents like that to change us in who we are, we are a nation that's been accepting immigrants for generations and we're better because of it not just immigrants from europe but immigrants from all around the globe, not just christian

immigrants, but immigrants of many different faiths we are better because of our past immigration policies let's not let fear change us and who we are, now that doesn't mean... i'm on the homeland security committee it doesn't mean that we

shouldn't be doing vigilantly doing what we need to do to keep ourselves safe, but i hate the toxicity of fear and that it turns some into demagogues, others trying to rile up more fear than is necessary. we need to be practical in protecting

ourselves, by staying true to our values >>how are we doing dealing with isis? >>we're dealing with it in a way that has some acknowledgement of the strategies working, you know pulling in partners with

muslim nations, pulling in partners in europe, we're making some significant ground, but this idea that this is gonna be some kind of easy quick battle, we're gonna win it, they're really misunderstanding the nature of the threat, which is not

just in the theatre of iraq and syria, it's also a global threat, as you see them exporting terror to places as far away as north africa up to even europe, this is going to be a long fight where we must stay vigilant as i said, and we must invest

resources into making sure that we ultimately defeat and destroy, defeat isis not only in the theatre that it's in, but the global threat of isis >>senator, let's talk a little bit about people's attitude towards guns. the president

executive order on the issue of guns, didn't want to go through congress, wasn't confident about going through congress on that, to what degree do you understand people's feeling right now post again, san bernardino post paris, and donald trump

saying if people had guns fewer people would have died in that situation. do you understand people, some people wanting to have guns now? >>look, i'm not, i don't think that there's a contrast here we can affirm american's 2nd amendment rights, but keep

the guns out of the hands better keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, over people that mean harm, you know most of americans agree that you shouldn't just be able to walk into this country you're a foreign national you shouldn't just be able to

walk into a gun shop, and buy lots of guns. well our current laws allow that. if you're suspected of terrorism, you're on the terror watch list should you be able to just walk in and buy a gun? if you are a spousal abuser, have threatened your spouse, we

have a lot of murders in america every year, domestic violence. you've got, should you be able to go out and buy a gun? no, we need reasonable gun safety efforts that allow law abiding citizens like you and i, to assert our 2nd amendment rights, but not

bad people with bad intent we've gotta do the common sense things, and by the way, most gun owners, over 70 percent of gun owners, agree with this this isn't a republican or a democratic strategy this is a common sense strategy that the overwhelming

majority of americans, hey we could do some more things to keep guns out of the hands of bad people >>let me ask you this about hillary clinton, we don't know how things are gonna play out as it relates to the email situation, has she channeled

it well? >>look, i think that, at the end of the day, we're gonna get the tests now, by the time this thing airs, we'll be done with new hampshire, we'll be done with iowa, i think that she is the front runner, not just in the democratic field

but in the field altogether because of her qualifications because of her experience because that she's actually accomplished things, as a senator, as a head of the state department, as well as even as first lady. so i think that voters are gonna see her

for the totality of who she is she's made mistakes and she's admitted to them, but the reality is, there's really been very, not in the modern era has there been somebody as qualified as this, who's running for office >>thank you senator

>>thank you very much >>we are pleased to be joined by doctor larry norton scientific advisor cure breast cancer foundation it's very good to see you doctor >>great pleasure to be here

>>tell everyone what this foundation is >>well, i work in memorial sloan kettering cancer center and we do a lot of wonderful research and one of the ideas that turned on my colleague and friend andy abramson

>>our good friend too >>started this foundation it was the idea that cancer is not just a disease of cancer cells dividing, but also a disease of cancer cells moving around, and with my colleague joan massague and his laboratory, we found

out that cancer cells can actually leave a tumor and come back to the same tumor but reinvigorated. and that really changed our whole notion of cancer biology we're discovering more and more about cancer everyday, you know we've always thought it's a

disease of cells just dividing too much, but it's much more than that. and the work has really evolved to where we're understanding that one of the primary things about cancer is it's the relationship with the cancer cell to other cells in its vicinity. white blood

cells, blood vessel cells other kinds of tissues that we find in the tumor and those relationships turn out to be very important what really excites me about that is relationships between cells is sometimes easier to target with drugs, than

abnormalities in the cells themselves. so this is leading into very very promising areas not just for the diagnosis and prognostication, but also for treatment >>you know, when i was talking to andy about this, we were talking about the foundation

by the way, the website will be up there, check it out important information one of the things that struck me is that when it comes to cancer research is that, and you've said this as well, is the idea that people look for, doctor, the one magic

>>bullet, the one thing >>that's a distraction actually that's something i've been finding in my entire career, where some idea catches the popular imagination and resources and excitement pour into that one idea and ignore everything else, we need

a diversified portfolio of ideas. and that is illustrated by what we're doing, we started with the idea of cell mobility, but now it's extended... >>oh, hold on, back up cell mobility? >>cell mobility, the fact that

cancer cells move is, it, we started with that idea, it... cancer's not just cell division it's also the ability of cancer cells to move around, is also critically important, but it's extended to a lot of other areas of cancer biology such as the relationship

between white blood cells and the cancer cells blood vessel cells, and so on and it's very important to keep evolving and not just pursuing one idea, but pursuing all the good ideas that we have because a diversified portfolio of idea is where real advances

happen >>and this one term, help us understand this "self seeding"? >>right >>self seeding theory, what does that mean? >>well that's the original observation that cancer cells

can leave the tumor, travel through the blood, and come back to the same tumor and when they come back, they come back reinvigorated they bring white blood cells with them, they bring blood vessel cells, or cells that turn into blood vessels with

them, and that reinvigorates the growth of the tumor and this was not at all expected before, but we demonstrated it, it was published, and many many other people who have observed it and we're seeing this in human tumors as well, i mean for

example, if you have two tumors in your body, and one of them develops cells that are resistant to treatment, those cells can spread to the other tumor, and can stop that tumor from responding to treatment and so these many opportunities for intervening there so we can

keep cells responding to treatment, throughout the body by interfering with the ability of cells to move from one spot to the other >>and the foundation is dedicated to this research? >>well it started with this research, this was an idea that

turned andy on, and so he said "let me see what i can do about raising funds to support this area of research" but it's also everything that derives from this area, for example, we're doing conferences, and we've done one conference in israel we're doing another conference

in israel, about genetic susceptibility to cancer >>genetic susceptibility? >>suscept... right. and that is that some people are born with a tendency to develop cancer, and you've probably heard of brca1? >>yes

>>brca2? >>"braca one"? >>"braca one" >>yeah, brca1 and brca2 are genes that everybody has, but if you're born with an abnormal one, that you inherit from a mother or a father, it gives you a

much higher chance of developing breast cancer or ovarian cancer, and a few other cancers as well, and so we're, we've, we're having a meeting soon in haifa, that's going to be bringing together world experts to share knowledge about this, and

to make decisions about how we can screen better for these abnormalities, and help individuals. and that extended because it, as again, it all started with the self seeding theory, but the fact is that one of the things that makes these cancers abnormal

is not just their cell division but the fact that they can move around, and that can be tied to their dna abnormalities and dna abnormalities leads us to the area of being born with abnormal dna, which can predispose to cancer >>and the foundation is working

in those areas, bringing people >>together having those discussions? >>let me ask you this doctor i've always, in anticipation of this question, i wanted to bring something up i have often thought about many people will ask the

question, particularly because there's, i mean everyone's touched by cancer, in one way >>of course >>or another, virtually everyone. when will they find a cure...? >>...for cancer? i'm not gonna ask whether you get tired of it

but that is not, is that not even the right question to ask? >>the, well i think the right questions is "what can i do to lead to that moment?" >>i mean that's really the right question >>first of all, we cure... >>a productive question?

>>we cure many cancers, and indeed most cancers right now with available treatments >>such as? >>breast cancer, for example my main area of research if we diagnose it early and we do all the right things it could be a surgery, surgery

radiation, drug therapies of various sorts, the cure rate is very high. and that's because you know, we've learned over the years how to apply those various tools in good ways >>because of research? >>because of research, entirely we're not curing everybody

we're not preventing cancer in everybody, we're preventing cancer in many people also but we're not doing everybody so we see the end of the tunnel there's light at the end of the tunnel, and we see it. now we've just gotta get there faster, and research is what

enables us to do that you can't do this just by applying existing knowledge you have to have discovery of new ideas, and then you have to take those discoveries develop them, and eventually apply them to real people and all of that takes research

support >>dose density? >>what does that mean? >>that means that... it refers to the fact that when you have an anti cancer treatment it's often better to give a lower dose of treatment more often than a higher

dose less often and this, and the reason why the reason why that's an important concept is because it's already led to cures of tens and tens of thousands of people with breast cancer because of it's application along with everything else

that we do with early diagnosis of breast cancer, in terms of drug therapy, so it's had a huge impact throughout the world in lowering death rates from breast cancer. the simple idea of take a moderate dose of drug and give it every two weeks, rather than a higher

dose every three weeks the important part of that is, of course, the fact that it works. but underneath it is the fact that it's engineering it's not just having drugs and just using them, it's knowing how to use them an automobile is not gonna get

you from here to chicago unless you know how to steer the car >>and we have not developed i think, adequate tools for knowing how to give our drugs we're developing better and better drugs, but how to give the drugs better, is i think, a

very very exciting and important area of research >>let me ask you this you made a decision a while back to go into this field >>complicated question... >>give me the pbs version >>huh? huh? the pbs version? >>it's a meritorious thing to

do. you want to do something in your life that's gonna make a big impact, and a lasting impact, you want to save lives you want to help people this seemed to me to be a very good place where i could put all of my energies and all of my dedication

>>and this foundation helps you do that? >>yeah, we can't do anything without support. it is... the best ideas in the world and the most dedicated people without the support to move forward, are not going to accomplish everything. this

foundation, and other foundations, other individuals people who support research and the people that are making a huge difference, and that's the most important message is you can't just by if you're afraid of breast cancer, support research

if you're afraid of ovarian the important thing is that we're not gonna make advances unless we do these studies and these studies require resources, and we can't do it alone >>people say, "hey, why don't you do it?" it's like, "how can

you be a part of it?" >>right, yeah, of course i mean, this is something that affects each and every one of us, and if, you know, if you live long enough, you're going to get cancer. if you have a family, and you have people that you love, and you have

friends, some of them are gonna get cancer. we're not gonna escape this by just having a perfect life, research is critical >>doctor larry norton i want to thank you very much for joining us here on public >>great pleasure

>>television >>thank you >>we've learned a lot >>thank you so much >>one on one with steve adubato has been a production of the caucus educational corporation celebrating over 25 years of broadcast excellence

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