{music} welcome to straight talk on mms. i'm dan bender, your host. this is the first in a series of shows we'll be producing, that helps the public become educated about mms. what it is, and what it isn't. on today's first show, my guest is andreas kalcker. fascinating individual. he's involved in so many things that i can't even begin to talk about it. but, what we will focus on is what he's currently actively doing and that is a documentary about mms. he plans to travel the world talking to experts in the field... ...where he will find out everything there is to know about the topic.
so, join me now in having a discussion with andreas and find out what he has already discovered. let's go... d: andreas, let me ask you the most common question i hear all the time. d: what is mms? a: mms consists of two liquids. a: one is sodium chlorite with a "t"... a: naclo2, and the other component is... a: ...citric acid. d: i thought that's what you have in soda, i think.
a: yes, actually it is. a: but, there is a difference. once you mix these two components together... a: there is a chemical reaction that releases chlorine dioxide. a: and, chlorine dioxide is responsible for the positive reactions in your body. d: you mean that's what kills the bugs? a: actually, yes. it kills viruses, fungus... a: it kills bacteria... a: it even kills parasites... and you get rid of your metals. d: that sounds like snake oil. a thing that does it all?
a: actually, we want to find out if it is true... and that is why we are doing the documentary. d: so what do you tell the "nay sayers" who are calling this snake oil. a: well actually, it is very correct to be skeptical, and i was very much too. a: because, if somebody says, "a miracle" you are skeptic. a: nevertheless, there are the results... a: as a good scientist, you have to look after the results and if they are positive, you say, "well, what is going on here?" d: i'm going to mention a few of the common illnesses i've heard can be cured with mms. d: just give me a quick... d: ...one or two sentences what you know about that particular illness, and what can be done with it.
d: malaria a: malaria -- definitely yes... a: it was the first thing to be discovered. it was used by jim humble. a: we can confirm that it kills maleria within days. d: hepatitis a: yes, it kills the hepatitis virus through denaturizing. a: it is a different process. d: how fast? a: it depends on the severity.
d: herpes a: yes, herpes is a virus too, and we have very good results... in 3 days we can bring down a herpes zoster. d: you mean completely eliminate it? a: no, but bring it down when it comes out. a: to eliminate it, you have a middle to long term [treatment]. d: so in a few weeks you can get rid of it? a: yeah d: candida or yeast in the gut. a: there are 3,000 different types or yeasts...
a: some work one way and others another, but it works... a: ...not against all, but it works against many. a: there are some yeasts that are aerobic too, so they are resistant to mms. d: yeast is also, i think, tied to dandruff, so i would assume it would help with that too? a: yes, it helps too. d: topically or internally or both? a: both, but topically it is very useful. d: here's a big one that everyone wants to know about... cancer? a: yes, we know from ourselves by testing family members...
a: ...that it helps very good against cancer. a: for example, we have private knowledge about skin cancer. a: necrotic tissue became normal again. d: something that is constantly in the news these days... flu? a: yes, it helps. we have scientific research. a: dr. nori ogata, he found out that on the avian flu too... a: ...there were two groups of animals. a: one group was not treated -- 70% died. a: and, the group he treated with chlorine dioxide, which is the same as mms...
a: ...survived to 100%. d: the common cold? a: yes, it helps very well. d: does it just speed up recovery? a: if you already have the cold, you recover faster. a: you get rid of it faster. d: would it prevent it so you don't catch it in the first place? a: since i've been taking mms, i have not had any colds. d: on that i think is personally interesting... arthritis?
a: yes, i had severe arthritis in my hands. a: so, i was very astonished when i could move my hands again after years. d: burns... i've heard it works on burns and that you do it topically? a: right, on burns you do it topically, and it is very effective. d: warts? a: warts... are a problem because there are different reasons for them. a: if they are based on viruses and you can get to them through the blood stream where they are, then yes it works. a: but, if there is some other reason, then it is maybe a bit more difficult, it does not work. d: would you do that internally or externally?
a: it does not kill all warts. d: skin infections? a: very useful. a skin infection is an infection... a: ...so it is bacteria based... most of them are bacteria based... and it works very good against bacteria. a: there are lots of fungal skin infections... even more today than bacteria. d: this is one that personally touches me... teeth, cavities and abscesses . a: it's one of the best you can get. d: so you get rid of cavities with it? a: yeah, brush your teeth with it.
a: it will help eliminate bad breath. a: it is very useful for pets too. a: you can disinfect your teeth and they will get much better. a: if you have a very deep abscess in the bone area, it does not reach therefore it does not help there. d: of course we just scratched the surface of what mms can be used for. d: it’s very likely that many more treatments will be discovered over time. d: ok, we just came from a wonderful meal in brussels. d: so, if i wanted to take mms now, should i have taken it before the meal, during the meal, or some time after the meal? a: the best time to take mms is one hour after the meal.
a: why? chlorine dioxide is a very strong reactor. a: so, it reacts with your meal, instead of the pathogens in your body. a: so, you use up all the "gun powder" before it reaches your blood stream. d: eventually, it was time to try a small dose myself to see what the experience is like. d: i just took some mms... and one of the things i noticed is... d: ...my throat is hurting a little bit, almost like i have a sore throat from a cold. why is that? a: chlorine dioxide may have the side effect that it eliminates bio-films. a: bio-films are in your throat. a: it could be from the acidity or it could be attaching some pathogens you have in your throat.
a: so, it has to be sought out exactly in every case. d: is there anything people should avoid taking while using mms? a: yes, the anti-oxidants. that means, for example, vitamin c, coffee d: ahh, so that means i can't take my morning coffee to wake up? a: you can take it, but it won't be as effective. a: ...because it is an oxidant, and it oxidizes together with the coffee... a: ...or the vitamin c, so the efficiency is zero. d: what if someone smokes? now, i don't smoke... a: smoke is not an anti-oxidant... but we have a nice side-effect...
a: lots of smokers have said they don't like the taste of cigarettes anymore. d: well, i guess some will stop smoking while taking mms... a: well, yes, there are some cases. d: well, i suppose, if the claims of mms are really true, then refraining from one’s morning coffee on the one side, is well worth the health improvements, on the other. d: this led me to ask… what is the best way to take mms? a: there are different ways, depending on if it is viral or bacterial. a: the common procedure is to start slow and increase the dose slowly. a: in my case, i went further up to 25 drops to make sure it is not dangerous. a: we have very good experience with this, but you should not do it at the beginning...
a: ...because you will have oxidative stress. a: you don't have to force your body. never! a: so, if you take mms, build up the dose slowly, a little bit at a time. a: if you feel something strange, or slight nausea... a: ...this is because you have too many dead bacteria in your body... and you have to get rid of them first. a: if you don't get rid of the bacteria, you can get a headache or nausea... a: ...or diarrhea. this is called herxheimer effect (reaction). a: this diarrhea is not like a normal diarrhea, it just tries to clean out the body. d: it became very clear, that taking mms is a bit more complex than just popping a vitamin pill in the morning.
d: it involves getting educated on its proper use and the best procedure to use for the specific health issue you’re trying to correct. {background music} d: as we wandered around brussels, the european unions center of power… d: money, politics and specifically medical politics came to mind. d: i asked andreas how mms might impact the pharmaceutical industry… a: first of all, it is too cheap. d: how cheap is it? a: it's about $20 in the internet. a: and, the second problem is that you can not license it...
a: ...because you can not patent it. a: it's been used for about a 100 years as a disinfectant. a: we are using and drinking mms daily because most of our drinking water supply... a: ...is disinfected by mms or chlorine dioxide... it's just a question of quantity. a: so, when the industry can make no money, this is a problem... a: ...because they can make a lot of money on products they can patent. a: and, because the most money is made on patents. a: so, i think jim humble is right, they will do anything to prevent mms from being known to the masses. a: because, imagine it would take thousands of products out of the pharmacies.
d: although i kind of knew the answer to this, i had to ask, where do you get mms? to see what sources andreas recommends. a: well, you can buy it on the internet. d: not at the local pharmacy? a: no, it's not approved now. a: you can buy it on the internet and just look in ebay a: the more customers the [seller] has the better. a: and, try to get the 1 to 1 mix. i think it is better and [safer] than the 1 to 5. d: i want to find out more about the quality difference. d: you are telling me there is one that you do a 1:5 mixture and one that's a 1:1 mixture. you are saying 1:1 is better. why?
a: the 1:1 mixture is the newer version. a: the 1:5 is the first version jim humble came out with. a: it is just concentrated lemon juice as the activator. a: so, if you activate it with a stronger activator... a: ...it will be a faster reaction and easier... a: ...because if you take 15 drops of mms, you will have to count to [75] of the other ones. a: imagine if you mix it up and take [75] drops of the mms... a: i think you will have quite a bad day. d: it was time for us to head over to the erasmus university for the “let’s create a new paradigm†conference...
d: ...where andreas was one of the speakers. he told the audience about his ambitious upcoming adventure… a: my wife and myself, we want to make a tour around the world. d: his plan is to make this trip in a converted truck that he is turning into a super rugged and incredibly efficient motor home... d: ...that uses a special water injection technology, known as “geet.†d: the purpose of the trip is to help spread the awareness of the efficient geet technology, d: ...which andreas has already successfully demonstrated with a 2000 watt generator... d: ...that uses less than 20% of the fuel it would normally use to generate the same amount of electricity. a: when you plan a trip around the world, it now becomes complicated. you have a lot of problems. a: first, when you go around the world, you need a good water supply.
a: we, ourselves and the truck, so we were looking how to manage it. a: first, we thought we would disinfect the water using ultra-violet light . a: but, we don't only have bacteria in the water... a: ...there is also fungus and parasites. a: because this may be a very nice city... and we can get water there... but do we really know what's in the water? d: in the process of searching for a solution to the water safety problem, andreas discovered that chlorine dioxide is one of the best water treatment solutions available. d: further research revealed jim humble’s discovery that chlorine dioxide was a cure for malaria and many other ailments. d: andreas’ curiosity got the better of him and so he had to order some. a: and, first we give it to our dog. {laughs}
a: well, she's perfect... and she's running better than ever. a: ...and, she does not like it all, because the taste is awful. a: but, she has to. so, i say, well this is very interesting... it really works. a: and, well, i tried myself because i had some severe health problems, in my case arthritis, and some other things too. a: i could not even handle some simple things like a camera... my hands were very bad. a: and, i tried it... and we were moving so i had to move some cases. my wife said, "no, no don't carry that because your hands are bad." i said, "no problem." a: so, she said, "tomorrow, your hands will be really bad, because you moved too many things today. and, with your arthritis, you'll be unable to do anything." a: what happened? i was on 3 or 4 drops... i woke up the next morning... my hands... a: no pain! what's going on? i could not believe it.
d: clearly convinced that mms was something special, andreas continued to do research on the capabilities of chlorine dioxide, d: ...and as a result, has become one of world’s formost experts on the topic. d: after the conference, we headed over to the hotel to continue our conversation about mms, what it can do, and the name that jim humble gave it. a: first of all, for everybody that doesn't know what mms is able to do, it will sound like a fairytale. a: because, it is able to do too much. d: well, it's just that the name already--miracle mineral solution... i've heard "solution" and i've heard "supplement." a: well, jim humble called it "miracle mineral supplement." a: now, many people are calling it a solution, because it is a solution, evidently. d: suppliment gives the idea it's a vitamin.
a: it's not a vitamin at all. i prefer to call it a solution, which is what it is. a: and, "miracle" well, at the beginning i was very skeptical, and i did not believe at all... a: but, now i have to say, well, it deserves the name... a: ...because, first, we tried it on so many different illnesses... a: ...we were working with several hospitals in spain and andorra. a: and, it does... it actually works... d: they actually let you go ahead and bring it into the hospitals? a: on test phase, yes. in the hospitals, there are always doctors who are open to it. once you explain how it works scientifically, they are much more open. d: i don't think you would find that in the states. i would be shocked to see it, because they would be too afraid.
a: no, no no, in the states they actually did. but, they didn't call it mms. they called it chlorine dioxide--it's the same. a: in the states, they were working on leg ulcers. a: they had 100% success treating diabetic leg ulcers. a: and this is a clinical test. d: were these topically treated? a: yes, used topically, because leg ulcers usually don't close or usually does not [heal]. a: and, we repeated the test in clinics in andorra and it is true. it completely [heals] leg ulcers. a: but, not only this, we are now speaking about ingestion. d: so, which illnesses does the ingestion...
a: you have to see it as a strong antibiotic, in a way. a: it works as an anti-inflammatory too. a: why? if you have an inflammation anywhere, it is more acid. a: and mms looks for the acid parts because the ph is different. it looks for it where the body is below ph of 7 it [goes]. a: so, it is easy for mms to find where to look exactly in the body... to target it. d: based on everything that andreas told me, mms is obviously a rising star in alternative medicine. d: his upcoming documentary… as well as a book that’s in the works, will certainly speed things up. d: where do you see this going… let's say 10 years from now? a: i hope there will be a very big difference in the health system...
a: ...especially in the third world, and where they can not afford to pay expensive pharmaceutical products. d: well, let us hope it goes that way. let's be realistic... even in the first world it's quickly getting to where people can't afford medical care and pharmaceuticals. d: let us hope that somehow this ends up breaking into the main stream... and not to far down the road. d: anyway, we've learned a lot, and there are still a lot of questions i'm sure you have out there. so, let me encourage you... d: we are on youtube obviously. right below this screen here you should find the list of comments. d: put your own in there. and in those comments, put in the questions you would like to have answered. d: and, we will do our best to answer them in follow-up shows. as a matter of fact, andreas will probably be d: ...the one who does some interviews out there in the field when i'm not out there. d: so, you will probably see us, and who knows who else... it will be interesting to see who else pops into this ever evolving show.
d: anyway, thanks for joining us, and being my guest this time, and next time you can say the same thing to whoever is on the other side. a: be invited... thank you, dan. d: thanks, appreciate it.
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